Posted: Thu Feb 28, pm. Does anyone have any experience with the 9mm Flobert? My initial research suggested that it is similar to the.
Shot sizes range from 6 to 9 or so. I've also seen slugs, but I'm told they're rare. The weapons and shells that I saw are predominantly manufactured in Europe, mostly France and Italy.
Now, I am offered one of these weapons really cheap. But the ammo seems expensive, and being rimfire does not seem easy to reload. Are they any good? They seem pretty weak, but I am not sure. Can they be made to fire anything else apart from their specific ammo? Should I go for it or stay well clear? Posted: Mon Mar 04, pm. I have one and I don't think the ammo is too expensive, it's also easy to find online. It's very effective on small stuff and extremely fun to shoot.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, pm. These are excellent varmint guns ,they are good for doves ,pigeons and smaller birds like Thrush,blackbirds,larks etc. The slugs are good for squirrels and rabbits. I have 2 such guns and have been hunting with them for many years. Basically it is a European gun and is as popular there as a. Effective range is 15 to 20 meters ,however with a 28" or 30" barrel you may get a wing shot up to 30 meters if your lucky.
Buy it,I'm sure you will enjoy it.!! Posted: Sat Mar 09, am. Thanks guys!! I'll have to think it over some more cause I've also been offered another 12 gauge, and I can't afford both. But it will be on my to-do list.! Posted: Mon Sep 29, pm.
I have recently bought a Anschutz in 9mm flobert, I have used similar "garden guns" in the past for shooting rats. The shot shells are not much use on squirrels or rabbits but the CB slugs have plenty of knock down power for small game "if" the smooth bore is accurate enough.
Posted: Sat Sep 02, pm.The Parabellum the name derives from the German manufacturer's telegraph code dates from the turn of the 20th century, served as a weapon in both world wars, and became something of a European standard as well. While the sizeable 9mm service sidearms proved useless for civilian everyday carry, the cartridge aroused a lot of interest nonetheless, as NATO standardized it.
The 9mm Parabellum has, in recent years, become almost the world-standard handgun cartridge for LE agencies. The use of the 9mm as a sporting or defensive round has grown alongside or slightly in the wake of its official popularity.
Whereas the selection of a compact carry weapon CCW is relatively easy, ammunition selection is a complicated job, especially if you are in the market for the best 9mm self-defense ammo. A 9mm bullet has to achieve adequate penetration to disrupt the vital organs, stop the bad guy, and not cause any collateral damage. A heavier bullet penetrates barriers better and causes more damage if it remains in one piece. All well-made defense rounds should demonstrate excellent weight retention ; i.
Its modest dimensions permit the use of high capacity, double-column magazines in pistols. It is precisely the firepower factor that has led many American police departments, as well as sporting shooters worldwide, to prefer the 9mm.
However, recent technological developments in bullet and propellant design have contributed to the 9mm's skyrocketing popularity. The 9mm caliber is having something of a renaissance these days because people are more interested than ever in concealed carry compact pistols purpose-built for constant wear and reactive use.
In the world of personal defense, the 9mm has become the most popular concealed carry caliber due to the solid ballistics, wide selection of self-defense ammunition, lower recoil, and affordability. But in a gunfight, the guy who wins is the one who can place well-aimed shots at the right time and we recognize that training and practice are mandatory to every handgun owner. Compared to other high-powered handgun cartridges, 9mm ammunition is less expensive, especially when purchased in bulk.
That same lower cost also encourages handgun owners to practice more for less money. However, you have to differentiate between the 9mm ammunition intended for defensive purposes and the practice ammo that you would use for the range. For training and even plinking, you can purchase FMJ ammo cases or buckets of or more in order to lower the cost per round. On the other hand, many experts have advocated for years the "bigger is better" theory of defensive handgun rounds, but with engineering and performance of modern 9mm cartridges, lighter and faster 9mm projectiles can rival the slower and heavier.
In the market, you usually have the following types of bullets: lead non-jacketed bullets, FMJ or full-metal-jacket bullets, and finally, the JHP or jacketed hollow point bullets. Since most major handgun manufacturers forbid the use of lead bullets in their firearm, the other two are most often found in our arsenals.
A lot of criminal records and serious tests have proven that full metal jacket ammunition achieves great overpenetration and minimal expansion, making this type less suitable for self-defense. This causes the round to go clean-through the target and continue on.
On the other hand, the modern, bonded jacketed hollow point 9mm bullets are superior to full metal jacket projectiles, providing the minimum performance standards we are looking for self-defense.
Hollow point ammunition with modern bullet designs such as JHPs is designed to expand upon impacting soft tissue to stop your attacker efficiently. Statistically, 87 percent of people shot with 9mm FMJ ammunition survive, yet to date over 90 percent of people shot with Glaser rounds have died.
In fact, the estimated survival time of a person shot in the front, mid-abdomen with a Glaser slug is about three days. Although they come with benefits like the minimal risk of ricochet or over-penetration, the Glaser Safety Slugs are totally defeated by any form of angled cover, such as glass window or indoor soft-wood door. Lighter than a typical 9mm bullet, both provide deep penetration, whereas these projectiles create a permanent wound cavity diameter that far exceeds wound channels made by most expanding bullets.The Armory stocks 9mm 9x19 Luger ammo in box quantities and cheaper 9mm bulk ammo offerings.
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Per 50 rounds. Item number : IK Cabela's Once a relatively-commonly encountered tool for the control of small pests in gardens and orchards hence the nameit has been displaced by the air rifle and the.
Only a handful of manufacturers e. Falco, Fausti still produce shotguns with a 9mm bore — usually to special order. Although there are still many examples of guns in this bore size in existence, most are old, or very basic construction and spend their lives languishing in the back of gun cabinets, remaining unused except in the most unusual of circumstances.
The first rimfire metallic cartridge was invented by Louis-Nicolas Flobert invented in He modified a percussion cap, inserting a bullet with the aim of improving the safety of indoor shooting. Later, in place of the bullet, a thick cylinder of paper, packed with shot was inserted into the cap, creating the shot cartridge which still bears his name: the 9mm Flobert.
Varnished, paper-cased 9mm shot cartridges were produced until relatively recently — perhaps as late as the s by manufacturers such as Gevelot. These tended to be both expensive and unreliable: the paper case would often detach from the brass cap and disappear down the bore after the shot, leaving only the brass cap in the breech!
Quite what sort of pattern such cartridges would have thrown remains a mystery to us here at SmallBoreShotguns, but a single, mm hole in the paper would not be unexpected. More common in the 20th and 21st centuries has been the brass-cased design with its slightly odd bottle-neck shape, sealed with an over-shot card.
According to the CIP, the cartridges should be 1. Maximum permitted pressure is pounds per square inch. It is traditional, when writing about shot cartridges with metric designations, to label them also with the older Imperial gauge equivalent. For example, the.
Fiocchi Specialty Ammunition 9mm Rimfire (Flobert) #7-1/2 Shot Shotshell Box of 50
Besides shot cartridges, two other 9mm rimfire cartridges usable in a 9mm shotgun remain commercially-available: the BB and CB caps. These are necessarily low-pressure cartridges whose designs have remained essentially unchanged since Flobert conceived of them in the s.
A tiny charge of ultra-fine smokeless powder is sometimes added to provide extra velocity. This would mean that the ball projectile possesses approximately 60ftlbs energy at the muzzle.
Like the ball round, they may or may not include a powder charge. Accuracy from the conical bullets is usually slightly better than the ball cap but remains poor from smooth bore barrels. Muzzle velocity tends to be in the region of fps and energy approximately 75ftlbs. Pietro Fiocchi always maintained that the smallest shotgun suitable for hunting was the. It is impossible to determine value and purpose of the Flobert shot cartridge s without also investigating the utility of very small i.
It is simply not possible to use the 9mm shell for the forms of game shooting traditional in the UK, since the general requirement for these is a cartridge loaded with 7- 4 shot.
The number of pellets of those sizes one can fit into the tiny case renders the cartridge almost immediately inhumane: beyond yards, they produce no pattern to speak of and therefore give no guarantee that any quarry hit will be killed cleanly. Even if experience could show a greater capability than the theory suggests we do not encourage anyone to use a 9mm shotgun on living targets — Ed.
The 9mm cartridge is probably most balanced with the use of 9 or 8 shot but this may not be saying much. In fact, it may be the case that the most satisfactory performance on game is achieved by the intentional use of unbalanced cartridges in this bore size — see here for discussion.
Cartridges with these sizes will contain approximately and pellets respectively. However: because of the very low muzzle velocity — around fps is common — cartridges containing very small shot may be no more humane than those containing the traditional-for-game sizes. Whichever way you look at it, it is extremely difficult to get a 9mm Flobert cartridge to perform adequately beyond yards on even the smallest of the commonly-encountered UK quarry species.
The situation abroad is or has been different. The Italians, for example, have a long history of shooting songbirds and other migratory birds, many of which are exceedingly small. This, in turn, requires the use of very small shot.
Local crops, such as olives, tomatoes and other soft fruit, also suffer at the hands of small pest bird species e. These birds are therefore controlled by shooting although the shooting of finches and sparrows is now illegal in Italy. Polenta e Oseioften made with larks. Although it is possible to buy gauge cartridges containing shot sizes appropriate for very small birds thrushes might be killed with 8; sparrows, when they were shot, were generally taken with sizes as small as 14!From Chiappa, we are looking at what may be the smallest of the Italian shotguns.
It is a very common European cartridge but is almost unheard of here in the U.
9mm Flobert or 9mm Rimfire
The payload is so small, some people will even shoot them inside greenhouses. While I was unwilling to test it on my big toe, it is safe to say 9mm Flobert would be less than lethal on human-sized targets in all but the most unlikely of instances.
So what is it good for? Rats or mice in the garden, obviously. It is also used for a peculiar type of hunting. It seems that some delicacies in Northern Italy are made from very small birds, and blasting them with anything else would ruin the meat.
A similar sized gun has even been used to shoot moths and other insects, for use later in display. But that proved unfounded. There are a few factors about this Little Badger that are actually really nice.
In fact, I would wager that training with the Flobert will make even your game stronger. Second, for youth training, this thing is awesome.
Not only do you get a nice, wood stocked, Italian gun, you get one the right size. The Little Badger is tiny, under 3 pounds. The recoil is non-existent, a must for little ones. And my favorite part, it is very close or below hearing safe. The noise produced by the 9mm Flobert is significantly less than a 22 LR, enough that I felt hearing protection was unnecessary.
Probably best to double check that with the serious European gun nerds, but it is my belief after shooting it.
As far as safety goes, I like that in the Little Badger too. The shotgun uses an external hammer, that must be manually cocked. And as a single shot, it has the built-in safety against other shenanigans. Is this gun right for everyone? Not even close. But it does have some benefits, and for a certain segment, it is absolutely right.Frenchman Louis-Nicolas Flobert invented the first rimfire metallic cartridge in It was a major innovation in firearms ammunition, previously delivered as separate bullets and powder.
The rimfire cartridge combined both elements in a single metallic usually brass cartridge containing a percussion cap, powder and a bullet, in one weatherproof package. Before that, a "cartridge" was simply a pre-measured quantity of gunpowder together with a ball bulletin a small cloth bag or rolled paper cylinder which also acted as wadding for the charge and ball.
The 6mm Flobert cartridge consisted of a percussion cap with a bullet attached to the top. Flobert also made what he called " parlor guns " for that cartridge, because those rifles and pistols were designed for target shooting in homes with a dedicated shooting parlor or shooting gallery.
The previous form of cartridge had to be rammed into the muzzle or barrel of the gun, and either a small charge of gunpowder in the touch hole, or an external percussion cap mounted on the touch hole, ignited the gunpowder in the cartridge. The brass cartridge opened the way for modern repeating arms, by uniting the bullet, gunpowder and primer into one assembly that could be fed reliably into the breech by a mechanical action in the firearm.
The firing pin is then struck by the hammer, which in turn strikes the cartridge primer, which then ignites the gunpowder within. The main technical advantage of the brass cartridge case was the effective and reliable sealing of high-pressure gasses at the breech, because the gas pressure forced the cartridge case to expand outward, pressing it firmly against the inside of the gun barrel. That prevented the leakage of hot gas which could injure the shooter.
It also greatly simplified the loading process, and allowed a ten-fold increase in the rate of fire over muzzle loaded weapons. Metallic cartridges with built-in percussion caps called "primers" are now the standard in firearms.
The primer charge is at the base of the cartridge, either within the rim or in a small percussion cap embedded in the center of the base - a " centerfire " cartridge.
As a rule, centerfire cartridges, which operate at considerably higher pressures, are more powerful than rimfire cartridges. Centerfire cartridges are also safer, because a dropped rimfire cartridge has the potential to discharge if its rim strikes the ground with sufficient force to ignite the primer. That is practically impossible with most centerfire cartridges. In Europe, 9mm Flobert smooth-bore shotguns are commonly used by gardeners and farmers for pest control and face very little to no restriction, even in countries with strict gun laws.
They are also used for pest control at airportswarehouses and stockyards. The 9mm Flobert cartridge can also fire a small ball, but is primarily loaded with a small amount of shot. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Redirected from 9mm Flobert. Louis-Nicolas Flobert. Paris, France. Gagny, France. Texas smoke: muzzle-loaders on the frontier. Texas Tech University Press. Retrieved 25 January Iola, Wisconsin: Gun Digest Books. Shooting UK. Retrieved 5 August Barnes .
Cartridges of the World 10th ed. Krause Publications.
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